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Amaurus

over 9 years ago

10

While the fan-translation effort is fairly slow for this light novel, the pure quality of both the actual content and the translation effort is nothing short of stellar. To get a good idea on how Youjo Senki reads, take a read of the prologue and the first chapter. Those two chapters sum up exactly how it is going to read. The language and concepts used can be a bit difficult to read through which unfortunately makes the fan-translation difficult. The knowledge of the author shines through and the plot is very well thought out. Normally, in light novels with the 'reincarnation' trope, the character makes thecharacter seem intelligent by simply having them outsmart other characters or makes them flat out overpowered. In this case, the main character shows their intelligence through detailed, well thought out logical plans, interesting philosophy, and incredible application of high level military tactics.

While a bit of the plot leeches on some real world events, it is absolutely justified.

Overall, I absolutely recommend this light novel to anyone. While I am aware the reincarnation genre is very overdone, this one rightfully stands out and is very worth reading.

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Umezono

over 5 years ago

4

I won't mince words, this is a deeply irresponsible work. I wanted to see it through, but I dropped it after much deliberation. Youjo Senki is the tale of an objectivist who is reborn as a child soldier in a imperial nation that is a mix of WWI and WWII era Germany geopolitics and military, but technology is supplanted with magic. The main character, who is renamed Tanya, is the picture of Japanese neoliberalism and the central "punchline" of the story is that her result-oriented pragmatism is instead seen as fierce patriotism and ideal military prowess by her superiors. Tanya has the foresight of extensive knowledgerelated to military procedure and uses this to amass countless accolades, hoping to secure a cushy desk job position in the rear guard (which is the neoliberal ideal.) Instead, the military brass in their fear and admiration continue to assign her to the front lines where she doesn't want to be. This initial formula was quite entertaining to me.

Unlike a majority of people who have been enamored by the WWII style German military outfits and believe this to be a celebration of the military might of the Nazis, its actually quite clear from interviews with the original LN author that is intended to be two things: 1) a manga that covers WWI history and military procedure, a market relatively untouched in Japan and 2) a satirical critique of war, religion and Tanya's underlying objectivism. The story makes clear that war is a terrible thing and the justifications the "pacifist" Tanya makes for her actions are in fact deeply hypocritical. Tanya believes her actions are simply to maximize efficiency and end the conflict as quickly as possible, when in reality, she becomes seen as a "devil" even by those within her own nation.

The issue, for me, stems with the execution of such a message. Beneath all the dense plot and attention to detail is a fairly stock standard isekai plot. Tanya is an all respects a very generic Mary Sue, with the ability to defeat entire squadrons and forces much more powerful than anyone else can handle by herself. She is armed with knowledge nobody else possesses, power that far eclipses anyone else, and also has divine intervention guiding her. The manga goes out of its way to establish a tense action story in each sortie, with Tanya rushing forward into explosive air battles. It is written almost like a shonen at its core, and as a result, Tanya is presented as the one to be rooting for. Whether inadvertent or not, she is increasingly built to be a sympathetic character which in turn assigns moral ambiguity to her actions. Even though what she is doing is clearly evil. Her actions are sociopathic to their core, and in any actual context she would be considered a war mongerer. All sympathy or moral ambiguity her actions may imply are simply projected onto her from the outside. Her inner monologues make it clear that war is simply an equation of human capital to her, and it doesn't matter as long as she comes out safe and on top. This would be a brilliant satire if the format for it wasn't so weak. Instead, you have people in reddits and on image boards praising the nazi loli for her epic war crimes, and much of the fault does lie in the delivery.

Maybe you think I'd be wrong to state that because Carlo Zen specifically made sure that the world he was building was not a fascist one- the Empire is one supposedly devoted to racial equality. Yet I cannot shake the fact that this is such a weak way to develop an anti-war and ultimately anti-capitalist critique. If you want to develop a satire, you develop a satire. If you want to develop an action adventure story, you develop an action adventure story. If you are going to develop both, you need to find a proper balance. Where Youjou Senki fails in its balance is that so much emphasis is weighed to the isekai action story that it becomes easy to forget what it is critiquing. The message is essentially eclipsed by a bunch of heroic looking figures in Nazi garb committing what are essentially war crimes.

Carlo Zen is admirable in his goals, but his execution is irresponsible. The final nail in the coffin for me was an entire chapter devoted to her committing an obvious war crime, that is followed with her monologuing to another sympathetic character that what they are doing actually saves lives and is justified. The way he goes ahead and presents these realities of war as morally ambiguous is already logically weak to me, but the fact he plays it straight and attempts to humanize the aggressors was borderline insulting. I would've a million times preferred her to just have the usual monologue about human capital. Instead what would be a powerful statement is marred by common isekai tropes and an attempt to present nuance where there doesn't need to be. To cap it off, this brutal war crime was preceded by a very generic anime battle. It robs the message. And its clear that it did because I see plenty of discussion where people attempt to justify this action by Tanya morally and pragmatically. This demonstrates a death of the author issue that I just don't feel comfortable reading.

To reiterate, its irresponsible. But not because of the author's intentions. Its because this medium is so weak for what he wants to accomplish. There is a popular saying: "there is no such thing as an anti-war film." Why is that? The spectacle, the action, the generic emotional arcs rob the central satire. The action in this series and the MC are clearly presented to be "cool." The author becomes so engrossed in telling a war story that he ends up softening his critique of war. In trying to present an anti war message, it fails because the isekai aspect glorifies it. Not my cup of tea.

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SSSamuel

about 9 years ago

9

A very hardcore and concrete story among the vast amount of light novels which are 'sexually-polluted'. This novel series is noteworthy for readers who have at least some interest in stories of wars and battles. The writer's comprehensive knowledge of war histories can be known through the detailed battle plans explained and the various examples of past battles quoted. What makes this novel appealing to me is that the story has largely eliminated the popular 'naive' characteristic of most protagonists in other novel series. The realistic inclination of Tanya (Both male/female protagonist of this story) will be giving readers a feeling of fulfillment reading howshe/he destroys the enemies without any hesitation.

ALL HAIL TANYA !

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TheDeedsOfMen

about 5 years ago

10

"Kind Mr. Josef was worried. The expectations of all who believed in him were weighing on his shoulders. Thinking only of the people’s happiness, he thought it was time to work hard at developing the Federation. But… Its citizens, spoiled by his kindness, only fell into decline. How awful! ... What in the world is this job? The answer:The environmentally friendly job of counting trees in Sildberia.

It was work that soothed the tired people’s hearts with the power of nature

and would surely protect the environment as well.

People could enjoy forest bathing while gazing up toward the clear starry sky

while spending their days devoted to this noble task.

It was truly labor by the people, for the people."

This is the funniest light novel I have read.

"But how can it be? This seems grim and edgy, not to mention political. It isn't even listed as a comedy."

But that is the point! The comedy is effective precisely because of the dark touch and powerful political satire.

Do you want to commit war crimes but don't want to end up convicted? Looting civilian property? Bombing population centers? Reducing local churches to piles of rubble? Don't worry; Tanya has you covered. She has come up with all kinds of outlandish legal excuses.

So here we are, "waving the flags of ethnicity" or not, witnessing how appealing to patriotism is the first and last resort of crooked politicians. When the protagonist is expressing her patriotism or religious beliefs, it is all lies. The communists have also sold out their beliefs, and God is a cruel tyrant. This is Cynic City, and the mayor is Carlo Zen, one of the wittiest, most sarcastic authors on the light novel scene.

He is also a hard worker, considering the outrageous level of technical, tactical, and conceptual detail in this. He won't settle for anything less than ultra-realistic warfare and relatively detailed philosophical arguments, by the standards of fiction, at least. The volumes in this are actually quite long and densely written. If you have seen the anime adaptation, it is pretty obvious that they had to cut an outrageous amount of content, both in plot events and internal monologue, to fit in the very minimal screen-time they were allotted. I am writing this review after reading 7 volumes, which have already provided a mountain of content.

I have some criticism though. Sometimes the technical details are explained in too much detail and at too great a length. Often I would have understood it with a briefer explanation. Some of the fight scenes also drag on a bit. More generally, sometimes the plot really should move along faster. I appreciate the attention to detail, but let's get the important events done as well. And there should be more tension between the various characters in their interactions. They too often agree with each other for the most part, or their motives are rather similar. This is especially true of the soldiers under Tanya's command. Oh, and Loria's crush on Tanya is unnecessary and does no favors for the narrative, even though it only pops up on rare occasions.

It is worth noting that Tanya often throws around terms like "the free market" and "the ideal market" even when they are not very relevant. For instance, if you support broad social liberties, it is not really a matter of economics, at least if taken literally. The same for opposing authoritarian governments. It is entirely possible to be authoritarian but still support relatively free markets economically. And, besides, Tanya constantly runs her comparisons between all-out communism and unconstrained capitalism. Most economic systems are between those extremes, and I have a hard time discerning which policies Tanya would support or object to in a more realistic situation. I realize that it has probably been done on purpose, to offer satirical critique of the inconsistencies within the protagonist's belief systems, and highlight that she is not alright in the head and not exactly the most virtuous person. After all, the English title is "The Saga of Tanya the Evil," not "The Saga of Tanya the Good."

If you have read isekai light novels, you may have noticed that many of them are borrowing ideas from each other. Where are all the copycats of this one? If you are going to draw inspiration from other authors, might as well go for this one. We need more light novels in which Stalin gets a phone call from heaven.

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Vicariun

about 5 years ago

9

Having read all seven currently translated light novel books of Youjo Senki/Saga of Tanya the Evil, I feel confident enough to give you an idea of what you're getting into. I've watched both the animation and the movie, as well as started reading the manga a few weeks ago. !! I'll assume that most of you reading this have seen the Anime & Movie, and perhaps read the manga. THIS WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS ACCORDINGLY !! Having said that, it'll bring me to the most important part about the novel in case you are interested: Both the Anime and especially the Manga have a much bigger focus on actionand if that is one of your necessities, chances are that you'll be bored by the novel. A large part of it is Tanya's internal monologues and going into detail over her plans, actions and general historical strategy & strategists (obligatory mention of Sun Tzu). You'll even have your fair share of economical concepts talked about. And of course coffee (not even joking, I stopped counting the amount of times Tanya was confessing her love of it, thanks Carlo Zen). Nonetheless the novel doesn't lose its sense of humor, which I really appreciate. For example, Tanya even mentions how she tries to add jokes to her conversations when speaking to her battalion, and sometimes fails miserably at it because they don't catch onto her sarcasm. It shows nicely how little empathy she really has, and how much of her interaction is what she thinks are social norms. Over time, she warms up to her battalion though, and I like to think she's developing some humanity.

A lot of the wickedness/edginess of her character isn't so emphasized in the novel (especially in comparison to the manga), and during the majority of the time, you will be witnessing her cold and opportunistic character over anything else. As mentioned in another review on here, a large part about her "evil" stems from her treating war as a clash of human capital. In her own mind, she is simply being efficient and expects everyone else to think the same way. So while in anime and manga she is portrayed as a maliciously evil (for example the pill bunker at the very beginning of the rhine front & her sadistic smile), the novel makes it quite apparent that she's just doing what she considers efficient. People want to die? Sure, she'll give them opportunity to die in a way so she isn't handicapped by it.

She quickly earns herself the reputation of a cruel warmonger because of the way she prioritizes efficiency over morality. This is motivated by her desire to get off the frontlines as fast as possible, ironically resulting in her being sent there over and over again. So whenever she gets an easy job, she beams with happiness and people around her think that she's thirsty for war, resulting in an even worse reputation. She's pretty much oblivious to this as well. It's why I find it misleading to actually call her a sadist.

Overall, I believe that Carlo Zen sort of lost sight of what he was trying to achieve with this novel. He wanted to make knowledge of WWI more appealing to the japanese, since it's not a well known subject in Japan, which I think he does a fair job of. On the other hand, he was trying to show the flaws of Fascism (with alter-germany), but their success makes this questionnable. And with Tanya, he wanted to have an unlikable main character, by whose suffering you were supposed to be amused. With her unconvential personality and Mary-Sue characteristic, I think he achieved the exact opposite, simply judging by her popularity alone.

tl;dr

the novel has a heavy emphasis on strategy, history and some economics at the cost of being less action oriented. Tanya's character is more fleshed out and less cartoon-ishly evil, as some scenes in the anime and manga might suggest.

Might also be worth mentioning that the novel and the anime have quite some differences in their story, which will be very apparent when reading it.

few examples: Anton Sue's death is during a mission which is not even covered in the anime. Neumann and König basically don't exist in the novel (at least up until book 7), only Grantz, Weiss and Visha are "main characters" of the Battalion. there's a lot more but you get the idea.

Personally, I very much enjoy the novel and am excited about the next book.

If you disagree about anything, or think I'm misrepresenting something, feel free to send me a message

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ogblynz

over 1 year ago

9

After reading through 6 volumes i can say that: Saga of Tanya has one of the most interesting storylines. Fighting against the workings of the world? Opposing a (self righteous) God? being an antihero? Using the Power of hatred against people? Serving through dire conditions? Manipulating politics? Deitailed Magic system?it has it all, its great.

Yet, amidst this chaos, the series also shines a spotlight on the intricate dance of politics, where manipulation and cunning are as deadly as any weapon. Its distinct ideological stance sets it apart, prompting readers to grapple with the complexities of morality and the consequences of power. While the antagonist's motivations may falter in comparison to the richness of Tanya's character arc, the overarching narrative remains a compelling exploration of human nature and the pursuit of dominance.

Although, the motivation of the antagonist of the series is quite lame imo. Sonzai X gains nothing from tanya being a hater/ or a believer. Whatever Tanya does nothing will change in Sonzai X life. The god in Youjo Senki is purely just petty and self righteous without a good motivation. He just wanna see the main character suffer over and over again.

Historical accuracy is meticulously maintained, lending an air of authenticity to the sprawling narrative that spans across Europe and beyond. The brutality of war is vividly depicted, with visceral and intense combat. Strategy is barely mentioned, even if it's mentioned it isn't important. The fight scenes are cool, and people fight until only one is standing. The direness, and the "breath of death" can be felt as you read.

Moreover, the series navigates through a myriad of socio-political issues, inviting readers to think about the nuances of religion, anti-religion, communism, nationalism, and beyond. It presents conflicting ideologies, each with its own merits and flaws, leaving readers to ponder their own stance between them.

Tanya's winter battle in volume 6 stands as a testament to the series' ability to evoke the harrowing realities of war, where death and suffering lurk around every corner. Vol 6 shows the utter destruction of war, on the land and on people, people starve to death and freeze as they march into the nothingness of the snow.

In essence, Saga of Tanya the Evil is a must-read for history enthusiasts and anyone drawn to thought-provoking narratives. While its heavy focus on military strategy may not appeal to everyone, its gripping storytelling and profound thematic depth make it a standout gem in the world of literature and anime.

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JustAnAddict

almost 4 years ago

3

The first volume of Youjo Senki is the first physical copy of a light novel I ever bought. It ended up in the trash can, where it rightfully belongs. What I so utterly despise about the light novel is not the story, the militaristic overtones, the art, the characters, or anything like that. Honestly, those were the aspects that drew me in from the anime to begin with. No, Youjo Senki is bad because it is badly written. To be fair, it's a little unfair of me to judge, as I read an English translation, but it was the official translation, so that shouldn't be an issue. Anyway, Ihave read a lot of light novels and web novels throughout the years, and I'm used to low quality machine translations of already horrible fiction. Youjo Senki is bad in a very different way from those. What makes the writing bad can be boiled down to two main factors:

1: Everything is exposition. Every. Single. Sentence.

Have you ever heard the saying "show, don't tell?". When Carlo Zen wrote Youjo Senki, he apparently took this saying, and turned it completely on its head. You won't read about Tanya flying into the sky to fight other mages. Instead, you will read an omniscient narrator babbling on about what Tanya has planned, what she is thinking, what the political ramifications are, what her opponents are thinking, what her soldiers are feeling, how they regard Tanya, what equipment they are using, what spells they are using, and so on and on and on.

Everything is told as exposition, and the way it is presented, it sucks the oxygen out of absolutely everything that happens. I have read stories written by third graders that were more engaging than this.

2: Dialogue is repetition.

There is dialogue in Youjo Senki, but you'll have to look hard to find it. It takes up about two sentences every other page, and it blends so thoroughly into the exposition that you couldn't find it at a glance.

What makes me point out the dialogue specifically is that it just repeats the exposition. Let me give you a made up example:

The two officers were discussing Tanya's progress. They thought that her operation was moving along faster than expected.

Officer 1: "Tanya has been quick this time."

Officer 2: "Yes, she has moved faster than expected."

Although this example is made up, this is basically all the dialogue amounts to. Utterly meaningless repetition.

My recommendation would be to watch the anime instead, if you haven't already done so. In any case, the light novel is not worth your time.

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Autismonaut

9 months ago

8

Let me preface this review, dear readers, by saying that you will most likely only enjoy the Youjo Senki LN if you enjoy discussing ethics, philosophy, military strategy, logistics, and other academic topics pertaining to war. If you are someone that simply enjoyed the anime for the "nazi loli" blowing stuff up (Ironic, given that the Empire is based off of the German Empire, not National Socialist Germany) then you will almost certainly grow tired of it. Youjo Senki or "The Saga of Tanya the Evil" as the unsuitable and loathsome English localization would call it, primarily focuses on Imperial Battle Mage Tanya Degurechaff's attemptsto navigate the political and strategic circumstances of an alternate WW1 scenario as a grunt with the sole goal of surviving and eventually retiring or living a comfortable life in the rear. Much of the text consists of Tanya's inner thoughts, often comparing real world history and perspectives to the alternate world she resides in. What makes the story interesting is not wondering whether or not Tanya will emerge victorious on the tactical level, but rather if her best efforts will allow the Empire to improve its strategic position. Overall, I'd highly recommend the series for anyone with a love of history and a mind for politics and warfare.

However, the series is not without its faults. There are several occasions where technological developments would completely alter the way in which war is fought in the alternate world. An obvious example would be the widespread use of tanks by all combatants, barring Dacia. With armoured vehicles, one would expect for WW1-esque positional warfare to fall out of favour for a rapid war of movement much to the Empire's advantage. The wasteful practice of sending hordes of infantry to storm machine gun positions and triumph over the enemy trench by trench would not occur, or at least not to the scale where the conflict devolves into attritional warfare.

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shred1894

about 2 years ago

9

I don't know how far I've actually read since I read it online. I initially watched the anime for this and absolutely loved it, and it is still one of my favorite animes of all time, even if it differs greatly from the source material. But yeah, this is awesome, and so is the anime, but this has a lot more focus on the philosophy of war. In the anime, Tanya just seems to know about certain things like military tactics/strategy, but in this you actually see that she is actually just remembering the historical battles in her original timeline/world and applying that to whereshe reincarnated. You also see a lot more of the thoughts the characters have instead of just what they say, on top of more nuance in the development of the story. Read this, it's gud.

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nguyenduyhoangb

over 2 years ago

3

i bought this light novel with a high expect after i watched the anime but it's just a big DISAPPOINTMENT. My review will base on the fact that I've watched and love the anime. There are some issues with the light novel that make me very bored when I read it -If you watched the anime and want to read about the fights in the LN I have to say sadly there is none or very little of it. In the LN it will be like this Tanya reviceived an order -> mumbling in her head about some thing for 1 page -> meet her team > mumblingin her head about some thing for 1 page > enemy spotted Tanya team (literally the author does't write about they take of and fly or something it's just teleport to where the battle happen after a bunch of text that what she think in head, bruh) -> mumbling in her head about some thing for 1 page -> someone got injured -> mumbling in her head about some thing for 1 page -> a meeting in a strategy room for the next war??????

Yes it will always be like that I don't even know what happend after the fight, how many people died, did they even use gun to shot each others? The author is lack of a way to connect all the movement together the scene in the LN just teleport from place to place

-There's no explanation about what the city or the base they are attacking look like. It's like they're attacking A city and that's it, there's no scene like they're flying around the building or hiding near the window and shooting, THERE'S NOTHING!

-There are ridiculous amount of unnecessary use of War/Political/Economy reference that in the middle of some character quote that make me after read all the reference i already forgot what that character said earlier.

Score 3 / 10

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