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Yumi_Sakigami

about 2 years ago

6

I recommend watching this if you can turn off your brain! With this you will be able to enjoy 100%!!!!! lmao First of all, I don't speak English, so my English is a crap, so take that into consideration... It's going to be my first very very angry and pissed review, so it's going to be long, patience, I have a limit of stupidity that I can accept in stories... okay, let's get straight to the point? worth your time? Only if you can ignore all the stupid people living in the same place as this genius detective. Including his dumb partner, our other protagonist. Why doI say this? After watching 6 episodes waiting for a change that never comes, I'm going to explain why I'm saying this!!!

let's go. Things about the plot ahead!!

So, I will talk about some things of the plot now, just read, if u want know the why I said these things..

and if u dont worry about it go ahead.

First, every time Kamonohashi solves a murder case, he forces the guilty people to kill themselves. How? speaking and with a magical eye or hypnotic look (hypinoze, power or whatever), we don't know how he does it or what it is, and neither does he, since he does it unconsciously and without wanting to, and therefore That's why he stopped investigating and solving cases, so he wouldn't kill anyone anymore.

oks, thats great! We already know how it works right away in the first episode! and our dear other protagonist (TOTO) who witnesses everything also right? RIGHT???? (at least it should be like that)! got it? great!

Even though our other protagonist is a talking donkey, he should already understand how this works after seeing it happen 3 times in front of him, right? RIGHT???????????? dammmm this guy is an adult and works as a detective! Did he pay someone to take his tests and solve all his work until he got to where he is now? wtf!! WELL! Even if that was the case, man, I'm not a detective or a genius, but hey, I got it the first time I saw it... and this motherfucker didn't understand how it actually worked until episode 5? wtf! damn it...

So let's ignore the fact this protagonist is THIS STUPID for now and move on...

and all the other people living in this world? Even when he clearly orders people to kill themselves in front of police officers, detectives, or ordinary people, everyone is seeing him doing it, and they clearly see the other person obeying the order.

Then you ask yourself: oh, they saw him do that, so they're going to question him about it, right? RIGHT?????????????????????

no! they simply completely ignore all of his actions from the point he enters this state, no one ever, I say never, questions him about it after preventing the culprit from committing suicide! except in the first episode when the other protagonist (Toto) does this.

anyway, they never question this phenomenon happening in front of their eyes, clearly caused by him.

Who the H E L L in the world wouldn't question something like that? WTF investigators, police officers and people live in this world are doing? THEY ARE BRAIN DEAD OR WHAT???? In other words, we have to accept that everyone simply ignores what happened every time as if it were no big deal (WTF?), and move on with their lives. FUCK THIS PIECE OF CRAP!

And now the last point, which is another thing that really piss me off... (YEAH ANOTHER ONE)

Great, we know that it induces people to kill themselves by talking to them and looking at them, we don't know which of the 2 actually affects the culprit or both (hearing his VOICE OR EYES contact). BUT!!!! we know that whenever the murder case is solved he enters this state to induce the murderer to kill himself!!! right? RIGHT?????????????????????

So our big HERO TOTO, who knows what will happen in these murder cases..... what he says in the first episodes? Let's investigate I will stop you from killing people! great!? right???? RIGHT????????????????????? Yes!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... >w<

so you think he will try find a normal way to stop it after saw how it works, right? RIGHT????????????????????? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... >w<

at last should be this way right? RIGHT????????????????????????????

So we like normal persons, think: what could we do to stop him from killing people? What do you think TOTO is trying to do? what you think he is going to do after this? WHAT YOU! a normal person would do? (on my personal opnion we can try many things..) At the end of each solved case, put a blindfold on him so he doesn't see anything? a gag in his mouth so he doesn't say anything? try separately both of then, and later both at the same time to see which one solves the problem? leaving him handcuffed so he doesn't take them both off perhaps? And if it doesn't work, how about putting it out with a blow to the head then? Or what about a sleep aid? and how about the simplest thing? Is it just not letting him witness the resolution of the case in person? After all, he cant solve the case personanlly, so the person who ultimately solves the case in front of people is TOTO.

SOOOOO, which of these things do you think our HERO TOTO tries to do???????

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! is exactly what you think!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... >w<

none of the above!!! ._.

He just acts every episode like he forgot about his power, and when he starts using it, he tries to stop him? NO! THIS... THIS IDIO...!! THIS SON OF BITCH, THIS MOTHER FUCKER!!! runs towards the killer to try to stop him from killing himself, after waiting patiently our dear brilliant detective to activate the power and say everything he had to say to the guy to kill himself!! he never tries to stop Kamonohashi from talking or doing that, even though this son of a bit.... is on his side every time... wtf... WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

This insults my intelligence in such a way that it seriously offends and hurts me, the story is clearly calling me stupid.

THIS CRAP BURN MY BRAIN CELLS EVERYTIME I SEE THIS PIECE OF SHIT...

So if you care about inconsistencies like me, this will bother you! this will hurts u very very bad! ._.

Now if you can ignore this to watch, there will be interesting cases, because yes! The cases and resolutions are cool to watch! and that's the only reason I keep watching it, but this whole plot full of holes hurts me.

And you, what do you think? Answer me, I want to know what you think of what I said!

PS: then why you recommend this crap? and why are u giving this a 6????????? welllllllllllll because like I said, the cases and investigations are really cool... and this is a fact... (but if u cast this aside, and u will get only BIG PIECE OF TRASH dam)! If it weren't for that, this anime wouldn't even be worth a 2 for the stupidity that we are forced to witness...

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ApocalypSnow

about 2 years ago

7

You've heard of Sherlock Holmes, genius eccentric detective. You've (probably) heard of Moriarty the Patriot, Sherlock's most notorious antagonist who got his own awesome anime adaptation a few years ago. Now fiction's most iconic detective returns to anime in the form of Ron Kamonohashi, a genius eccentric detective with a villainous ability that led to him being forbidden from doing detective work. In these types of stories, the protagonist is an everyman like John Watson. In this case, we get Toto, a bottom-tier detective who gets all the cases Division 1 doesn't want to waste time on—the agency's "trash bin." It reminds me a bit ofZootopia. I like that despite everything being stacked against Toto, he remains optimistic and dedicated. From his perspective, Ron also becomes more mysterious.

Like an ideal detective character, Ron has Ranpo's ability from Bungou Stray Dogs, where he can deduce what happened immediately and solve a case as soon as he enters the room. Unlike an ideal detective character, Ron also has a secondary, more insidious ability. Without spoiling it, it's what leads to the title—with this ability, Ron is unable to legally perform detective work. It's a really interesting contrast that adds to both his character and the stakes, since Ron has to keep his detective work secret. It also sets up potential development for Toto, who has to build up his own confidence so he can present and take credit for Ron's work.

Despite this intrigue and the stakes with Blue, the institute hunting Ron down, the OP is fun and light-hearted. And the ED is hauntingly beautiful. I know lots of anime watchers don't care about the OP/ED, but it's still part of the anime. So when it emphasizes certain themes or ideas that might be surprising, it stands out.

Overall, I recommend this anime if you enjoyed the Sherlock Holmes stories and want something similar. Beyond the Mystery of the Week, there's the overarching mystery of Ron's ability, but the anime stays light-hearted and funny—Toto's gag-worthy reactions to Ron's antics are worth watching on their own. ^^

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whiteflame55

almost 2 years ago

6

As a detective show, this is pretty decent. It doesn't have the kind of swagger that Undead Girl Murder Farce did, and while neither show makes it particularly easy for the audience to figure out what happened (I'd say it's pretty close to impossible in both cases), this one just didn't feel like it had the strong wrap-ups to each of its cases that that one did. It also doesn't have the character-driven emotional elements that make the mysteries of The Apothecary Diaries so enthralling. I hate to compare this anime to other mystery shows, but it's just missing something to separate itself from thepack even when its mysteries come together in interesting fashion.

So, why did I keep watching? Two reasons: the pair of leads that headline this series, and the mysterious supernatural element that drives Ron's story. The former is pretty good. I'm not terribly fond of Ron's character, who is largely just quirky to be quirky (trying to emulate many idiosyncratic characters in a similar vein - more on that later), but I am fond of his partner Toto, despite his relative lack of background. I think they make quite the pair, with the latter functioning as a straight man who grounds the former and keeps his weird eye power from claiming more lives. I don't love that his role as last second lifesaver is the reason they came together, but their development as a pair is interesting, especially given Ron's isolation.

As for the supernatural element... yeah, it's not working for me. It's essentially an uncontrollable Geass that forces the accused, at the point that they admit to their guilt or are completely found out, to kill themselves. It's interesting in a way because it gives a reason why Ron is not an active detective, but it's a pretty weak reason, especially as we find out that other characters are aware of this and... did nothing. Why Toto was the first to try to address it is beyond me. Why it exists at all is kind of perplexing. Turns out there's a conspiracy behind it that I won't spoil, but it makes very little sense, and the basis for that conspiracy is depressing.

Again, relating back to Undead Girl Murder Farce, I had a problem with the episodes where Sherlock Holmes participates because it felt like the series and its characters could stand by themselves. They didn't need to lean on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, but they did anyway. And while I won't spoil the mid-season twist here, it's similarly leaning on outside characters and I don't like it. I appreciate that very little of the series is driven by that element, and it certainly sets up some interesting antagonists for S2 (which I'll watch to see if this goes anywhere), but it's lazy writing, shorthand to explain why Ron and his antagonists are worthy of attention rather than just showing why they are.

Overall, this series was at least an interesting watch. I enjoyed watching the murder mysteries play out and the central duo commands some worthy attention, but the central plot thread just doesn't work for me, at least not yet. The first season answers so few questions and introduces more. I'm hoping for better from S2.

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MeanEYE

almost 2 years ago

5

I can't. Simply can't continue watching this to the end. And I really tried, even paused it couple of times to give it time to simmer and settle down. But no. Nothing helps. Even though it's nicely animated it's irritating to a point of annoyance hardly described by words. One would think this is a detective and mystery show, but you'd be wrong. There's no detection here. Every episode is formatted the same way where something would happen, then bunch of screaming by everyone involved, guy supposedly not allowed to think thinks and then proceeds to explain to everyone how it happened through his annoying equallyscreaming borderline retarded sidekick.

"Mysteries" apart, I could have easily finished watching if characters were any better. It wouldn't be good but at least it would be watchable. As it is now, constant overreaction and screaming, especially coming from the police detective of all things is annoying to a point of unwatchable. Cases, or that is to say story, doesn't help either. All of them are as weird as it gets and so far none of them were interesting. It's all written in style of Agatha Christie's novels where something happens, bunch of people are present, main guy figures something out no one else has a clue about, audience included, then proceeds to preach to everyone in the room and pointing fingers. Fun part in stories like these is to try to figure it out on your own, or at least enjoy the twist. But there's no twist and there's no clues to try to follow. Guy just knows things because he's suppose to be genius.

If you are lover of mystery shows, I'd say skip this one. There's no mystery. If you are lover of comedy, there's none here either, not sure why it's listed as such. If you can ignore the screaming and everyone's but main character's stupidity... you might enjoy it. I can't.

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MarlsMarsBars

almost 2 years ago

7

Ron Kamonohashi’s Forbidden Deductions is pretty fun. I don’t have too much to say about this season other than it’s a fun buddy cop mystery anime. The dynamic between Totomaru Isshiki and Ron Kamonohashi is a lot of fun to watch and the mysteries that these two solve are engaging and always keep me invested every week. I really like how each new mystery in this season introduces an entirely new set of side characters which helps keep the interactions between the two main characters and the rest of the supporting cast fresh and exciting. This anime also introduces an overarching plotline involving some secretorganizations and all of this ties into the titular character’s special abilities as well as his backstory, and I’m really invested in it. I assume the second season will focus more on this storyline but this season primarily centers on building and strengthening the dynamic between Isshiki and Kamonohashi. The only major complaint that I have with this anime is that many of the deductions made when attempting to solve the mysteries are mainly from Kamonohashi, and at first I didn’t mind this since Isshiki was an inexperienced detective in the earlier episodes, but Kamonohashi constantly doing around 70-80% of the sleuthing doesn’t really help Isshiki grow and improve his skills, despite Ron giving him all the credit for solving the various cases throughout this season. Isshiki does see some subtle character development, but I’d like for future seasons to not have Isshiki depend on Kamonohashi so much and have him fully solve a case all on his own. Other than that, this anime is very serviceable in being a good mystery series with many fun twists and turns throughout the entirety of the show so far.

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MokkoriOtoko

about 2 years ago

6

If you thought Ron Kamonohashi is a curious mix of Katekyou Hitman Reborn and Psycho Pass, with a hint of Code Geass garnished over it, you're probably around the correct ballpark. I refuse to elaborate further on that subject, figure it out. Plot: Last season we had an Undead Detective, and now we have the Detective who makes you Un-alive. Now that is a plot twist, if I've ever seen one. It is a mystery/psychological Anime that has a ton of comedy woven into it. Though, I'd not be surprised, if at some opportune moment we are introduced to the supernatural. For the moment though, thisseems to be a mystery of the week kind of show.

Characters: So we have a 'strange' detective, a naive assosiate, a submissive boss, and a few corpses for characters so far. Nothing really stands out apart from that. Though, like Katekyou Hitman Reborn, I'd not be surprised if this BLUE organization turned out to be a covert community divided into factions, all looking to consolidate power, let's say like the organisation in Katekyou Hitman Reborn.

Animation: The animation quality is standard, nothing much to complain about, since there really isn't much to judge from as of now. Though, on a separate note the character designs do indeed look unique. They have certain aura about them.

Music: Again, decent, standard BGM, OP and ED. Nothing here to either complain or rave about.

Enjoyment: Quite honestly I'm not sure what to feel about this yet. On one hand it has genuinely good elements to look forward to, on the other hand there is a hint of reservation about where this will go. On the whole, I'll probably give it a good 5/6 episodes, if it's good and for you, you'll be sure to find that out by then.

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Greenia

about 2 years ago

4

A very uninteresting and dull detective themed show with a very boring main character. Beginning sucks for sure. Begining is what left me a bad impression of this show. A guy who's been off the business for so long agrees to get back into business after this guy he's never met his entire life says he would care for him during the action. Truly a very cliche and an unrealistic start to the anime. About 10 mins is wasted for this. The op detective guy is so boring he doesnt even tries to solve the cases. He literally knows everything. He sees a deadbody and immediately knows the history. He takes more time to explain the murder than the time he takes to solve the case. The mysteries arent mysterious enough, the main detective guy just doesnt lets it become mysterious. The explanation sucks for sure too. It did look like it had some supernatural aspect in the show but it wasnt, which would have sucked in a detective show. They were just trying to become as unrealistic as possible by giving the main character the ability to kill criminals.

After that they added something which I think would not fit in a detective themed anime, a world class school that produces elite detectives and controls detective world. Ofcourse our main guy was top in the school. There's also a meeting between elite detectives that decide how things should go in detective world. The last anime that I saw where elites had a meeting was Mashle, which makes sense in a world and a story like that, but this is a detective anime. Elites pulling the legs of each other instead of solving cases. Detectives are supposed to solve mysteries and make it interesting for the watchers and not have political matters among themselves.

I dont hate the other main character. I do like characters that arent gifted with talents and try hard but still cant produce any results. But the other guy is just so talented. It isnt even interesting to see what he does. The story doesnt even need to be streched for 20 mins, they could have fit 2 stories in a episode. Our guy clearly knows the criminal of the case that takes place in episode 8. There is no any tension that you would feel when the detectives reach the crime scene and start investigating. No one understands whats going on when our op detective is blabbering about how Im so smart and I solved the case, and then theres one guy that pretends to have understood everything. He isnt even a detective at the moment and just enters the crime scene like its his house.

Its more of a comedy, slice of life than mystery. Its not comedy because it has comedy but because its funny how this kind of show exists. The elite school politics is more mysterious than the detective guy solving cases, when that part isnt even the main theme of the show.

EDIT: This opinion is just based on those three episodes that I watched. I dont know, things might have changed later on but I dropped the show. I know it doesnt make sense to say that a show is bad by just watching 3 episodes of it but we could say these are the reasons why I couldnt get past 3 episodes.

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Wildflower3

about 2 years ago

8

This is my first time writing a review before finishing a series but I felt like giving some input. This series is far from being perfect but it still managed to become one of my favorite animes with a couple of episodes. Does it something new? Maybe. Or maybe not. We will see. (Warning! This review contains mild spoilers!). Story 7/10 Detective animes are nothing new, neither is the concept of seemingly impossible/complicated crimes with lots of tricks and moments that make you wonder: “Does it really work like this?” If your are looking for pure logic in this you won’t be finding it becausethe detective tries to pressure culprits into killing themselves with some kind of power (and they would be willing to do so if it wasn’t for his side-kick. And please excuse me for calling him like this but it’s true). So logic is out of the picture here to begin with. But I get that in this case you will still like the cases to make some sense and I understand because I prefer such ones as well. It’s undeniable these cases have some flaws and issues but I’m willing to overlook them for several reasons. Anyway, the story got me interested enough to start reading the manga and you have to know that this isn’t my usual genre. It’s just an interesting concept and what’s more: interesting (and unusual) characters. Solving illogical crimes caused by some silly methods? Everyone can do it. But with style and humor? Ron and his side-kick are exactly what you are looking for (seriously, the humor in this series made me pause a few times just so I could have a good laugh). One problem I think this series will face is that the best part of the main story starts AFTER 13 episodes (much like with many animes). That’s why I’m already hoping for a second season with some portions of brown sugar syrup (if you watch it you’ll understand). Also there are aspects that are totally over-used in Detective series (especially anime) but I don’t mind them so for me they are a bonus that only make me roll my eyes slightly (yes, that’s possible!)

Characters 9/10

I wanted to give it a 10/10 because of… No, let me just give you the reason why I’m not doing this. It’s because one of the main characters Totomaru a police officer who’s not very good at his job (why did he choose to become a police officer to begin with? I’m wondering about that) and who is the personification of a generic character. And the reason I’ve started to like him has nothing to do with his character himself. Not that he’s horrible or a bad character. He’s actually alright but very, very plain. But somehow it still works. And even though I can only see him as a side-kick he’s very important also for character-development (it’s interesting to have a main character who acts like a supporting character but is still written as a main character). Maybe I’m not fair here and I have nothing against Tototo (to call him as Spitz would do) but if you watch it you gotta admit that even some of the supporting characters have more personality than him (but I do like the fact how he ‘counteracts’ Ron’s power and they become close friends). Speaking of supporting characters; I absolutely love them. Whether it’s Amamiya simping over Ron (can’t blame her) or Spitz being Spitz (I know I didn’t trust or like him in the beginning but that’s why I have regrets). Also in the most recent episode Dr. Mofu was introduced and it’s just so interesting to have a very clumsy surgeon. Nowadays it’s really refreshing to see a female character with a lot of brainpower who isn’t a total girl-boss but has other significant characteristics and strengths which can be useful (and maybe will be in the future?). It’s also nice to see the dynamics between the characters.

But my most favorite part of this anime is probably Ron. Right from the moment he first appears in the series you’ll think: he seems like an oddball. And later you will realize: because he really is. With every episode (or even chapter) I love him more. When I first learned about his unusual “power” I was really skeptical and pretty sure I wouldn’t like him or last long enough to finish this series. But with each episode I’m convinced… maybe I’m not normal. There was one situation in the second episode I think will trigger some viewers but I wouldn’t blame this on Ron (but I don’t want to get too deep into spoilers. Also I’m not that far into the manga yet, so some of it is just speculation). I try to separate whatever happens to him after the culprit is convicted with his usual persona which isn’t from this world. He’s also the exact reason why I think Toto – while rather bland – still works as a character and I’m convinced Ron needs someone like him in his life in order to be stable (as it is). I really like and appreciate their friendship. Ron doesn’t simply have a unique personality and a sharp brain (is that even a thing?), he’s also best when it comes to mind-blowing entries. Oh, and most of the humor is thanks to him (for example in episode 3 he pulled out something very unexpected which made me laugh for a few minutes straight and if you think I don’t have a life maybe you’re right). He’s a rather refreshing character because he doesn’t have himself pulled-together but still manages to see through everything and everyone. So let’s just say that the characters of this anime are one of the best aspects and the reason why this series works despite some issues with the writing, lack of logic and even original storylines. The characters make up for it because they are original in their own way.

Animation/VA 8/10

Most of the time I like the animation and I think the color theme fits perfectly. I didn’t really feel the second episode but especially there this was something that impressed me very much so I think the studio did a great job. Same as with the voice acting and I feel like the cast is perfect. Especially Ron’s VA was probably born for this role. When I looked him up I realized he hasn’t voiced many characters I know but I’ll definitely keep an eye on him and his work since he’s very talented to pull off this eccentric character.

Overall 8.5/9

Right now I’m torn between giving it a ranking of 8 or 9 because the series itself isn’t anything mind-blowing but it surely caught my attention (for the right reasons). And I value great characters over many other aspects. Of course a good story is vital too but characters are always like the glue that holds them together and this is a perfect case of an anime like this. I don’t think I would have picked up the manga if it wouldn’t have been for this adaptation so I have to give it credit for this. There was some lack of explanation here and there which the manga provided much better in my opinion so at times it might be a little confusing. But hardy anything that couldn’t be overlooked. Again… if you’re looking for pure logic you’re wrong here. But if you are looking for a nice humorous show about an eccentric detective who doesn’t try to copy other existing detectives out there this is the right place/anime for you. Despite its flaws it has some interesting cases that sometimes convince with their simplicity. (The only thing that makes me somehow sad is that I would have wished for a crossover between “Detective Conan” and “Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri” some day but I know there is one specific reason why it’s very unlikely it will ever happen). Aside from this I’m enjoying it and it could be among my favorite animes of this season.

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reibyun

about 1 year ago

6

okay first off, this is not a typical mystery series because -im pretty sure- this is all about characters relationships and their subtle impact within their daily lives, at least all of part 1. so if youre looking for realistic plot devices in crime scenes this is probably not your thing (i mean, ron uses something like hypnosis on ep1, what impression does this give you?) narrative isnt that good (plot holes and unreasonable approaches happen often), animation is absurdly fine for it, voice acting is amazing, music is good. -the strong points are character growth, character relationships, character design and script (character and pacing wise), theOP and ED are quite unique for the animes simplicity at first sight.

-the weak points are the use of plot devices (theyre awkward), the fact its unlikely you will solve a case along with the characters because theyre kind of too specific sometimes and the fact that ron is too good to be real (i still like him though. hes one of those.)

the series are funny and entertaining to watch and are overall loyal to the manga while taking good care about pacing so you get to enjoy the best of each scene. the series concept is easily misunderstood (again, its not your regular mystery story), but if you can bear with the irregularities and focus on characters then youre off to a great start.

now as a heads up im actually up to date with the manga so i can firmly say this *will* get good further ahead (still considering the plot holes) so if youre patient you should stick to it. the narrative is ridiculous 90% of the time but it goes from zero to hundred very quickly when the scenes get intense and so, with the animes production quality, i think it will be a nice watch once the important plot points sink in.

this is one of those series that start not so well and then get real laaater on. through most of the first part itll feel like theyre just feeding you cumbs before an actual meal. so im looking forward to the upcoming season(s).

also, this gets better if you can deal with the fujobait (?) because theyre so homo it doesnt feel real (im fine with it)

hope it was useful ✮

EDIT: ik i said this gets good but actually everything after that arc where it gets good just goes down and feels very rushed. the characters are still lovable. but its aaahhhhh fine (?) i peace out

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Jay-T

about 2 years ago

9

It's a fun "mystery of the week" detective/buddy cop comedy, with an overarching plot surrounding the mystery of Ron Kamonohashi's (the eccentric Shirlock Holmes-esque genius) seemingly supernatural abilities. Without spoiling anything, one of the strongest points of the show is the enjoyment of solving the puzzle alongside the main characters. And rather than solely depending on synthesizing everything that's explained or spoken aloud, there are often visual clues that can slip by. It's one of the rare animes where they actually follow the rule of "show, don't tell"! Just be aware that the mysteries are pretty fast-paced; rather than depending on stretching out mysteries tokeep viewers in suspense, cases are usually solved within 1 or 2 episodes while progressing the overarching plot in tandem.

Is the show filled with cliches? Absolutely, and so much so that it borderlines parody. But the story-telling on display is a fine example that cliches don't inherently harm the enjoyment of a show as long as those cliches are well executed. Rather than turning up her nose at the classic detective tropes, its clear the source author just wanted to have fun with said tropes, and I think that's the perfect approach when watching this show: just have fun with it, and enjoy it for what it is.

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Elhwing

about 1 year ago

8

I just finished watching the first season of Kamonohashi Ron no Kinda Suiri and I recommend it for anyone that likes the detective genre. While this show isn't perfect, it has many qualities and I'll try to point them out in this review, without spoiling anything. The pros : + The investigations are interesting, and that's very important for a detective show. They aren't exactly meant to be solvable by the viewers, but the detectives will solve them by paying close attention to details in a believable way. + The character design is neat and the side characters are funny and rather inspired.+ The visuals are good looking, there's a lot of different landscapes, nice colorimetry aswell.

+ Some plot elements to make this show feel unique make us want to learn more about the story.

+ The comic vibe this show is going for works at times, there are a few funny jokes & situations...

The cons :

- But on the other hand, I'll reckon that this show could have used a bit more "seriousness", it sometimes feels like there isn't enough at stake.

- It's linked with the last con, but there's a lack of action scenes in the show, and it's a shame because it would have been relevant for a police/detective show.

- The MC being goofy is a common trope for that kind of detective duo, but it becomes a bit annoying in this show because there is one "gimmick" that happens everytime that will make the viewer cringe because of how unbelievable the situation is.

All in all, I think this show is enjoyable and anyone interested in this genre should give it a try. The detective aspect is respected by giving us some interesting investigations, and the overall cozy/funny mood the show is going for works well enough with the few characters introduced. In order to become more unique, this first season introduces a few plot elements that should keep the viewer intrigued and eager to watch the next season ! However, this anime does have some flaws, this comic choice comes at the expense of the story's coherence : it's hard to justify the lack of action scenes, and a rather "important" detail of the plot becomes frankly quite stupid because of this.

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Naito_Diamond

about 2 years ago

10

Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri is a delightful detective anime that embraces a more laid-back and charming approach to the genre. At its core, the series introduces a lovable main character who effortlessly steals hearts with their adorable demeanor. One of the anime's standout qualities is its ability to offer a relaxing viewing experience. It's one of those rare gems that you can simply sit back and enjoy, providing a soothing escape from the complexities of the day. The infusion of comedy, especially through the endearing yet somewhat clueless partner, adds a layer of light-heartedness to the investigative narrative. While some might yearn for deeper complexities orheightened tension, the anime's glory lies precisely in its easy-going nature. It doesn't demand intense focus or intricate unraveling of mysteries; rather, it offers a comforting space to unwind and let go. Sometimes, shutting down the active gears of the brain becomes a necessity, and this anime delivers precisely that with its tranquil and undemanding storytelling.

In essence, Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri thrives in its simplicity, offering a cozy and delightful watch that allows viewers to relax and bask in the warmth of its charming characters and relaxed pacing.

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KANLen09

almost 2 years ago

4

Ron Kamonohashi's Forbidden Deduction - To go from one of the most classic franchises to a tongue-in-cheek series that is a precursor to this show, I'm really left with this thought in my mind: does the author REALLY know how to make Shonen works stand the test of time? To the classic AniManga connoisseurs, I'm pretty sure that the name of Akira Amano is no stranger to you. The female mangaka best known for her series Katekyou Hitman Reborn!, which was featured in Shueisha's Weekly Shonen Jump as one of the top guns alongside the Big 3 at the time, is now, over 20 years later,a franchise that I can recommend to anyone wanting to experience a true and pure classic Shonen series. But her later series of the sci-fi adventure ēlDLIVE which (for some reason) was also serialized in the same publishing company's Shonen Jump+ spin-off, garnered a teeny-tiny fraction of her previous juggernaut series, and even with Studio Pierrot's Winter 2017 anime, it really didn't do much for the community expecting something new out of the acclaimed mangaka.

With the failure of ēlDLIVE, while sticking to the same publication platform, comes the brand-new gob-smacking mystery crime series in the form of Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri a.k.a Ron Kamonohashi's Forbidden Deduction, released in October 2020, with Diomedea's anime adaptation just 3 years later. And the series, despite the recommendation from Takarajimasha's Kono Mystery ga Sugoi! a.k.a This Mystery is Excellent!'s winning mystery writers, with one of them (Sako Aizawa) praising the series as "an "authentic mystery manga for the new era" with its fast pacing, as well as the tricks and logic used to identify the culprit", the anime (and its manga source material) may not be neither bad nor garbage, but is rather bland and mediocre, and a draggy slog to sit through.

What Akira Amano has done here in this series is to take the ever-so-loving tried-and-true formula of Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes and give it her take of the Shonen genre by mashing the personalities of both protagonist (Sherlock Holmes) and antagonist (William James Moriarty) into one person, and that's how we get the series' titular character: Ron Kamonohashi, the aforementioned deranged private detective with an affinity to send culprits to their deaths once the confessions are sounded. This, coupled with the fact that he was involved in an incident where he was found guilty, resulted in his detective license being revoked and him being expelled from the detective training academy, thus isolating him in the process. His saviour, who would get him back into sleuthing, is the rather unremarkable Totomaru "Toto" Isshiki, assigned by his superior Amamiya of the Metropolitan Police Department. Toto looks the part of a typical police detective, though he's rather unrefined and looks cowardly at first glance. That is, until Amamiya requested him to look for Ron, to which he slowly improved his craft, playing the part of Holmes's assistant John Watson, sometimes becoming like Holmes himself, and setting the goal of avoiding Ron's supernatural killing instinct for the culprits.

The problem with the entire series, as much as it's being marketed as a Shonen work, is that it's pretty much bread and butter when it comes to detective works. Sure, you have your usual evildoer group that landed Ron being the bad guy in the first place, but the cases are very cookie-cutter to the point that no matter how the case looks and feels, it starts and ends exactly one and the same. There are slight movements when it comes to Ron's overarching motive to sniff out those responsible for his expulsion, but it's very methodical and slow at the same time. Even the other characters that come onboard to both Toto and Ron's sleuthing campaign are really nothing special, made worse by the fact that Akira Amano chose to stick to the tried-and-true tropes of what works and what doesn't and doesn't even improve on her writing at all. It's just a shame that even in ēlDLIVE that the mangaka herself was entering into new territory that feels cheap but fresh, but in the case of Ron Kamonohashi, it looks as if she has just completely given up on writing a compelling work, the likes of which we'll never see the Katekyou Hitman Reborn! revival once again in time to come.

The aspects where I have the least problems are with the production and music. In-house director Shota Ibata did decent with Diomedea on the production side of things, which looks good, but honestly, this is pretty much what I've expected for anything out of the studio. The music is also decent, with Unison Square Garden and Hockrockb's OP and ED songs, though not particularly memorable.

What's even worse is that we had a detective series in the form of novelist Yuugo Aosaki's Undead Girl Murder Farce last season, and I declared that as my new favourite detective series of all time, being a masterpiece work. So going forward, the detective sleuthing bar is quite high, and no matter how many seasons the production committee decides to pump out of this (since Season 2 has already seemingly been confirmed before the anime started), it'll never change my perception that Akira Amano's newest series, if you take it as anything BUT a detective-themed story, its comedy will definitely either be or not be for you.

Be it as it may, Akira Amano has already lost her magic, and Ron Kamonohashi, is an abject failure on a crime-solving mystery level. Such a shame, but I'm not surprised at all.

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RedDecimo

about 2 years ago

10

Alright so I do plan to fully review/cover Ron Kamonohashi No Kindan Suiri at its fullest form someday since the anime isn't finished at the moment yet (at the time of writing this, the anime just airred it's 3rd episode) Although you can think of this as a first impression review about what I think so far rather than a full fledged analysis review, especially since on the behalf of being a huge Katekyo Hitman REBORN fan AND a follower of Akira Amano's works, but rest assured that I did infact read the manga for the sake of knowing what to expect from the anime butI will not be spoiling the important parts of the story

So far, the anime has an interesting touch to it, it is in a way unlike many detective shows, people may complain and say that "it feels more like a comedy than a mystery show" but I think that's what makes it unique, not every detective show has a comedy in it and in my opinion this delivers well. Sure, there are other mystery shows like Conan, Moriarty The Patriot that sorta has comedy here and there? but it's not entirely the main focus. Comedy is subjective at the end of the day but Ron's comedic moments does sit well for me which is okay in my book

The characters are obviously a tons of fun and the dynamic duo between Ron and Toto (which is obviously a parallel of Reborn and Tsuna with a bit of Sherlock Holmes and Dr.Watson respectively) is arguably one of the best parts of the show. The main character Ron isn't this "perfect" and "flawless" detective character, infact he's the opposite. He is good in deduction skills, very eccentric and being highly perceptive but he is not good at catching criminals since he basically manipulates them to die, the point and idea of being a detective is not just highly skillful intellectually but also catching the criminal, therefore Totomaru (being the deuteragonist) is the perfect partner for him, he may not be smart but his body acts faster than his brain to stop Ron's disgraceful streak, it may be weird for Ron to have an ability to basically kill criminals but I think that's what the point of the mystery is, there's a mystery attach as to why is it even there but it's also goes for what he's named after, being a "deranged detective" (or in this case, making "forbidden deductions) and for a bit of a spoiler, it doesn't happen all, the time.

Oh and of course, the character design is absolutely great which isn't surprising considering it's all behind Akira Amano, nuff said

Speaking of character design, I'm vastly surprised with how the animation turned out, it may not be anything special but it really did grew on me the more I rewatch the episodes, Diomedea really outdid themselves with this one, the background, the colors, everything felt unique and in a way very fitting, not to mention the well-paced and incredible dialogue which is behind the one and only Wataru Watari, again very fantastic

The opening music, OSTs and the ending songs are also all really amazing, Unison Square Garden always guarantee to make banger songs and this one proves it, sure it may a bit "too pop" or "too happy" for people's taste but it's still catchy nonetheless.

Mystery shows nowadays usually don't get that much hype now (besides Conan, Moriarty and I guess Bungo Stray Dogs) and unfortunately for good reasons as mystery shows are really hard to get right in anime form. Take a look at "Detective Is Already Dead" for instances, a "mystery" show that came out 2 years before this one, I've heard a lot of complains that it didn't hold up very well after the first episode, I only watched the first episode myself so I don't have a personal experience but there were a lot of legitimate criticism based on what I've seen and heard so I suppose that's why many anime fans tend to be reserved or indifferent with detective anime, but I believe you should look no further than this one, give Ron Kamonohashi a chance, this one is bound to be good if not better and if you're even planning on reading the manga, that's also absolutely recommended as well

Overall so far, Ron Kamonohashi No Kindan Suiri starts off really great and solid and it has a refreshing take to a detective anime and I believe it does get better the more you watch, I do hope and encourage people discussing more about the series as this has a lot of potential to be something that people can equally enjoy if you're either here for some good mystery or for good laughs and chuckle.

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paopaaoo

about 2 years ago

8

Previously, I kinda underestimated this series, first I thought it would be like milionaire detective(?) but then I try to give a try and yes here I am now addicted to Ron's series The storyline is good, sometimes maybe in predictable but the solving will felt amazing, for detective fan Ron is kinda light story and refreshing case, different style with conan or kindaichi The execution of the art style is soooo fine, the way they adapt the manga to anime is no miss, people who enjoyed both manga and anime will satisfy enough Sadly, I hope there will be second season soon, whereas in the manga ,the story would lead to Ron's trip to unreveal whether he was innocent or not during that bloody trip (I desperately already to wait for it)

I like the combo of the trio, Ron, Toto, and Spitz and with the help from the others, their interaction is good in their own portion

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EleaB

almost 2 years ago

6

It was fine, but really not that good. I've always loved watching sleuth related animes / dramas, but this really wasn't done that well. While I often turn my brain off watching detective things so I can fully enjoy them cracking the cases, this anime didn't give me any thrill. I was basically able to guess all the culprits way ahead of time, and there was no interesting plot twist, until a certain one that had completely no foreshadowing. While Ron is probably supposed to be somewhat eccentric and funny, I thought he was mainly just incredibly weird. For Toto, I had hope that he wouldgrow into his own as a detective, but either there was not enough time in 13eps for him to do that under Ron's shadow, or he was never destined for character development.

The cases were nearly all 1 episode ones, except for a particular few which were slightly more interesting. There are no connection between each cases, and were basically stand alone episodes. I thought the connection between each cases/episodes could've been done way better.

Then there's the magic bit which I find annoying, why was magic even incorporated into an anime about sleuthing? And it's funny how Toto just can't help but wait until the last milisecond to do something about this everytime it happens.

It was just up until the last episode that things started to get a little bit more interesting, but at this point, I have no motivation to continue on to season 2, where hopefully there is a more interesting plotline.

But while I've gone on about how terrible this anime was, I still slightly enjoyed it as a time-passing thing, but only watch this if you really have nothing else to do or watch. The only reason I didn't drop this was because it wasn't entirely bad enough for me to stop watching.

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Rian_Rahmat

almost 2 years ago

4

Actually, I'm quite lazy to type this, but what can I do, so that you don't regret it later, it's best to read my review. Detective themed anime, yes it sounds pretty cool, and you definitely think there will be a character who solves all the problems coolly, dashingly and powerfully. But you are wrong! This anime has two characters who are the complete opposite of the detective, the first is a character named Issiki Totomaru a character who is cheerful and excessive, in Japanese Tsukomi she is very excessive and very annoying. The second character is named Kamonohashi Ron, A very common character with his legendary hairsticking forward covering his eyes, I think this is very disgusting, does this character want to imitate one of the characters from Death Note? If so, then you failed!

A character like this really doesn't fit in a detective anime, a character like this is best suited to sitting in a corner and rarely getting attention, and appearing from time to time and not being part of the main character.

After seeing those two annoying characters, I decided not to continue watching, why should I waste my time just looking at a disgusting male character.

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restush

about 2 years ago

2

Kamonohashi Ron is illogical detective genre. The illogical here is the culprit. The motive of culprit is illogical like something in real life will never happen. The culprit choose a method that find hard to execute. Let's say, there is a stalker that come to your house and want to rape you, but then he died because you kill him by piggy bank to his head. Would you rather call police that you have accidentally killed a stalker or hide the stalker's body on river? A sense normal people that never kill someone will be in panic and call police that you have accidentally kill thestalker and the neighbors will help you too. However this anime choose the hard way by hide the stalker's body. The culprit also need to buy a brand new piggy bank because broken and has some blood on it. Then the culprit also need to buy a big suitcase to hide the body. Really? That so much effort doesn't make sense.

Another illogical culprit is making a plan that based luck. You see, when you try to kill someone, you need 100% chance to kill someone, but this illogical culprit tried by luck. So, in a hot spring, he just put a towel on the water to make the victim step on it, but what? it works! the victim died by slipped.

Another illogical culprit, a police man chopped a suicide serial killer's hands and hide the body because his handcuff gone somewhere. The police told lie to their partner that the serial killer escaped with his handcuffed. The body of serial killer found on truck with his hand cut off. Why would the police chopped serial killer's hands and told lie? Because he want to hold his reputation. Handcuff gone mean reduce his reputation. Holy moon, a normal sense police man didn't care about their handcuff if it gone and if he tells to their partner that he found the serial killer body, I'm sure he will get promoted and upper didn't care if his handcuff gone.

I have watched and read many mystery genre, this shows would be bottom on my list.

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Oz111

almost 2 years ago

5

Yet another Sherlock Holmes rip off that autistic detective with a gimmick and his/her relatively normal (in the context) sidekick go around and solve mysteries. I dont want to go in too much detail as it seems like there is one of these animes every season and all of them use same formula. Autistic detective with a gimmick meets the sidekick, he/she helps the sidekick to solve the problem then they team up and contunie solving more cases while detective's `oh so mysterious and tragic` past catches up with them... Basically there is nothing original to delve into. If you watch one of these, you willknow exactly what to expect.

If you are a fan of the genre, you can watch it i guess. If not, dont bother. Like i mentioned above, there is one of these every season. You wouldnt miss anything.

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elthreedotcomma

almost 2 years ago

7

Ron Kamonohashi's Forbidden Deductions is a fun show. That's mostly what it is. It's not a masterpiece, and doesn't need to be. If one watches it with the expectation of witnessing mind-blowing mysteries, they will be sorely disappointed. Most of the mysteries in this season seem rather predictable, but some end up having a certain twist, all of which are both believable and realistic. However, that is but one part of the show. Isshiki and Ron are two sides of the same coin : they are plagued by loneliness. The difference between them is that, while Isshiki mixes well with his colleagues and is mostly cast asideby superiors for his lack of skill, Ron lives life as a recluse due to his past with sleuthing.

Ron is basically an eccentric Sherlock Holmes... so he's basically Sherlock Holmes (he turns out to be a descendant of both Holmes and Moriarty so that's something). He goes about sleuthing with his own twist : he wishes to "avenge" the dead. He seemingly converses with the corpse, goes over everything that could have happened, and then it suddenly all seems to click together in a satisfying manner. It makes the viewer think, but also guides those who switch their brain off through the mystery.

Most mysteries are covered in an episode or two, and that helps the series as it makes it incredibly well paced. Most main characters have their own personalities, and feel like actual characters rather than gimmicks made for comedic purpose. On that note, most of the comedy feels natural and is actually funny. Jokes are mostly non-repetitive, and are almost never forced.

The compelling parts of the story are not massively explored : we don't know much from Ron's past apart from the Bloody Training Incident and the House of M is not prevalent in this season. However, the show focuses more on its existing characters, makes them build friendships and business relations, rather than rapidly expanding its cast in its overflowing ambition.

The art in this show is not too different from the standard. While great, it is quite similar to other art styles of most other shows. What it absolutely is, is polished. Most scenes are really well animated, and the character designs themselves are somewhat innovative. Sometimes, the music is standard. Other times, it is absolutely stunning, especially the violin sequences. Above all, music complements the scenes rather than making them. While not something that appeals to everyone, the season does what it sets out to do, and does it extremely well.

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